MANCHESTER LOCOMOTIVE SOCIETY


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MEMBERS MEETINGS


Friday meetings start at 7.30 pm, 

ending promptly at 9.15 pm.
Wednesday meetings start at 1.00 pm, ending at 2.45 pm


Friday 21st September: A Visit to Cuba in 1997. John Owen gives a talk about his travels.

Friday 5th October: Journeys through Wales during the 1960s. A slide show by Bill Chapman including narrow gauge railways.

Friday 19th October: Back to the 1950s - Part 4. Martin Welch gives another illustrated presentation on steam services during this period.

Wednesday 24th October: A Tribute to Lancashire Steam by Tom Heavyside. Featuring locos built in the county and locations where steam was seen and can be seen today.

Friday 2nd November: Railway Rambling. Ken Widd returns to give a digital presentationof varied scenes in the 1950s and 1960s.

Useful Links:

 
Real Time Trains

UK Steam Info

National Rail

Stephenson Locomotive Society

Manchester Model Railway Society

North Wales Coast Railway

Llangollen Railway



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SOCIETY NEWS ITEMS

 
If members have any photographs (like the ones below), news items, gossip, or articles that they think would be of interest to other members, why not get them published here?  Simply email them to website@manocosoc.co.uk.





On Wednesday, 22nd August 2018, Councillor Linda Holt, Mayor of Stockport 2017-18 returned to our headquarters by invitation to receive a small gift. This marked the occasion of her official visit earlier in the year on 5th May 2018 in conjunction with the 'Stockport Community Railshow'. Linda, accompanied by her husband and Consort Ken Holt, spent a considerable time with us and much appreciated what we had to offer. Escorts were Chris Tasker, Dave Nixon and Paul Shackcloth. The photograph shows Dave Nixon, on behalf of the society, presenting a framed period plan of the local railway network to Linda.  Photo by Paul Shackcloth.


 
MLS Duplicate Photographs

100's of duplicate photographs and colour slides are always available for sale.  This year, the sales stand will once again be present at Poynton (Great Nothern Railway Auctions) on October 6th and at the Manchester Model Railway Exhibition at the Barnes Wallace Building on December 1st and 2nd selling to the general public.

The duplicate collection is also available to view by MLS membersat the clubrooms on occasion.  Contact Paul - steam.image@ntlworld.com - for further details.



Committee Meeting Report

The latest Committee Meeting Report (No 734 - July 2018) can now be found in the members section (password required).  Click on Reports to find the document.



Autumn Pub Lunch

The next lunch will be on Monday 24th September at The Cheshire Line Tavern, Manchester Road, Cheadle, SK8 2NZ.

A note will be in the September edition of the Mancunian and on the notice board at Stockport.  Members and their partners or guests are most welcome.

Please let Chris Tasker know if you wish to attend.

A menu can be found on the Cheshire Line website



'Nosey Peaker'

The above named special train, organised by the Branch Line Society, ran on June 14th from Stafford to Buxton and featured three Class 37 locomotives.  Entering the Greater Manchester area via the main line from Crewe, the train ran through Manchester Piccadilly and Oxford Road stations to Victoria via the recently opened Ordsall Curve.  From there, the route was Ashton Moss, Denton and Heaton Norris Jct to Stockport.  The ex-LNWR route to Buxton doesn't see much unusual traffic these days which made this working particularly interesting.

Profits from the sale of tickets went to the Railway Children charity which was set up by MLS member David Maidment.



37558 'Avro Vulcan XH558' (37427) and 37407 head the train through Davenport.  Photo Charlie Hulme.  




37401 'Mary Queen of Scots' was the tail loco.  Photo Charlie Hulme.




The train is seen here on the reverse curves between New Mills (Newtown) and Furness Vale.  Photo Ken Millward.




Local Rail News Pictures - Spring 2018

Take a look at this new article compiled by Peter Cross and Charlie Hulme.  It features splendid photographs and interesting information about what's been happening on the local rail scene recently.



Mr Peter Bridge

It is with regret that we must announce the death of Peter after a short illness.

Although living in Stourbridge he visited Stockport on a number of occasions.  He joined the Society in May 2015 and was member no. 746

Charlie Hulme writes

Dear members,

I was saddened to hear of the death of Pete Bridge, as I have known him
for almost 50 years, from the early days of the Hazel Grove Model
Railway Society. He was an inspiration to me in those early days, before
he left our area to live in Worcestershire.

In the short time he was an MLS member, he took on a share of the
cataloguing and scanning of the Peter Michie collection, and also
donated to the MLS a collection of scanned images of photographs taken
by the late Graham Neve, which are available on the Members-Only site.

Pete also passed me a USB stick containing a large quantity of scanned
images of his own photographs, as a donation to the Members-only site.
I have been working on preparing these for upload to the site, and
yesterday I uploaded a first batch of these which include all the 1970s
UK black-and-white ones. Further batches will appear in due course.

As always, any comments on the captions will be welcome.

(You will need the MLS username and password)



Manchester Locomotive Society News Item For July 2018 Mancunian  by Andrew Macfarlane

Wayfarer Price Increase
From 21st May the prices of the popular Wayfarer day ticket increased to: Adult: £13.50; Senior Citizen (holders of English bus passes only): £8.50; Child: £6.75; Family (up to 2 adults + 2 children): £27.   

Senior Railcards
Members may not be aware that there are no time restrictions on the use of senior railcards in the North of England. The only restriction is that they cannot be used before 09.30 on Monday to Friday on journeys wholly within the London and South East area.        

Greater Manchester Womens' Concessionary Travel Pass
The Mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham, has introduced a new travel pass for women who have been adversely affected by the 2011 Pensions Act in terms of their qualifying age for a national bus pass. The pass provides free travel on train, tram and bus in Greater Manchester after 09.30 on Monday to Friday and at any time at weekends and on bank holidays. Women who were born between 6th October 1953 and 5th November 1954 and who are permanently resident in Greater Manchester qualify for the new pass. Further details are at https://www.tfgm.com/tickets-and-passes/womens-concessionary-travel-scheme or ring 0161 244 1000. Application forms are available at Travelshops at bus stations in Greater Manchester (including at Altrincham station).        

Freight News
Trains of imported coal from Redcar to Fiddlers Ferry power station have recently restarted to re-stock the power station for the forthcoming winter. These trains are being operated by Freightliner and run daily via Stockport and the Mid Cheshire Line in both directions. The loaded train passes through Altrincham at around 15.30.   

RMT Dispute
There is no sign of a solution in the lengthy ongoing industrial dispute between Northern and the RMT over the future role of the conductor. The latest days of strike action took place on Wednesday 9th May, Thursday 24th May and Saturday 26th May.


The points at Navigation Road had been repaired by 30th April because double track working between Navigation Road and Altrincham had resumed by that date. This has shortened the length of the single line in that area and should improve performance.

A new road is currently being built in Stockport between Travis Brow and the A6 Wellington Road North using the former CLC track bed in the Georges Road area. Wellington Road tunnel is being removed. The girder over the tunnel’s western portal had the date of 1864 in the centre.     

The Branch Line Society will be running a special train “The Nosey Peaker” with a class 37 diesel on Thursday 14th June. The train will travel from Peak Forest via New Mills South Junction, Cheadle Heath, Altrincham, Northwich, Middlewich and Sandbach to Crewe in the afternoon. The Crewe arrival time is approximately 17.00. 

The famous Stockport-Stalybridge service operates in both directions and on a Saturday rather than a Friday in the new timetable from 20th May. The train leaves Stalybridge at 08.46 and returns from Stockport at 09.45. These trains did not run on Saturday 26th May due to the strike on that day.

Northern and ASLEF have not renewed their Rest Day Working agreement which means that drivers are not currently working their rest days (except Sundays). This in turn is leading to cancellations because Northern do not have enough drivers to operate the full service without rest day working and there is also the issue currently of the need to train drivers on the new layout and signalling on the Preston-Blackpool North line. The start of the new timetable on 20th May made the position much worse due to an increased number of services in the timetable and new long through workings.             

Metrolink News
The section of the Bury line between Crumpsall and Whitefield is scheduled to be changed to TMS operation (line of sight) during the summer. This is unfortunately likely to lead to increased journey times because of new speed restrictions. The Ashton line is scheduled to move to a 6-minute frequency from the end of August by the extension of the Media City-Etihad Campus service through to Ashton. The Eccles Metrolink line is to be closed for 13 days from the end of July to mid-August for work to build the junction for the new Trafford Centre line at Pomona. Exact dates have yet to be announced. A bus replacement service will be provided. 27 additional trams may be purchased for Metrolink in a deal being negotiated by GM Mayor Andy Burnham. 24 would be to strengthen existing services and 3 would be for the planned extension from Manchester Airport to Terminal Two if that secures funding.          

Retro Railtours
On Saturday 25th August Retro Railtours are running “The Deltic Retro Scot III” behind Deltic D9009 Alycidon from Huddersfield, Marsden, Stalybridge (06.45 approx), Manchester Victoria (07.15 approx), Wigan North Western (08.00 approx), Preston (08.30 approx) via Carlisle to Edinburgh for a 4-hour stopover with the return leg via the East Coast main line. The Deltic is replaced by a class 67 diesel at York. Fares are £89 return (£129 first class). Premier dining is also available on both trips. The Retro Railtours website is at www.retrorailtours.co.uk and they can be contacted on 0161 330 9055 or at info@retrorailtours.co.uk.          

On Wednesday 1st August 60163 Tornado will travel through our area when it hauls its tenth anniversary train “The Mad Hatter” returning from Chester to Darlington via Northwich, Altrincham, Cheadle Heath, Hazel Grove and the Hope Valley line to Sheffield. The train will leave Chester at around 16.30. Final timings will be on www.uksteam.info nearer the time. The loco is due to work its next train on the main line on 10th July after the completion of a repair following its failure at Sandy on 14th April.


          




One of the main stars of the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway's May Gala was the "Blue King" No 6023 King Edward II.  MLS member Tony Martin was present on on the 26th and took this photograph of the resplendent locomotive.  Although it was hoped that the King would be returning to main line running in the not too distant future, this will not now happen before it's boiler ticket expires less than two years from now.



Local Rail News  by Andrew Macfarlane

 The famous Stockport-Stalybridge service will operate in both directions and on a Saturday rather than a Friday in the new timetable from 20th May. The train will leave Stalybridge at 08.46 and return from Stockport at 09.45. Ashton Moss North Junction signal box was abolished after the last train on Friday 13th April and the area is now controlled by the Manchester ROC (Rail Operating Centre) at Ashburys. The Runcorn area is now also controlled by the Manchester ROC following the abolition of the signal boxes at Halton Junction and Runcorn over the early May bank holiday weekend. Runcorn signal box, an “ARP” design from World War 2, is a listed structure. Abellio (Netherlands Railways) pulled out of the bidding for the Wales and Borders franchise in February because of the collapse of Carillion, which was its construction partner in the bid. Northern and ASLEF have not renewed their Rest Day Working agreement which means that drivers are not currently working their rest days (except Sundays). This in turn is leading to cancellations because Northern do not have enough drivers to operate the full service without rest day working and there is also the issue currently of the need to train drivers on the new layout and signalling on the Preston-Blackpool North line.

In an announcement on the 23rd of May it was revealed that the new Welsh franchise would be operated by a joint venture between the French company Keolis and Spanish owned Amey.  The two companies have previously worked together on the Docklands Light Railway in London and the Manchester Metrolink tram system.



Committee Meeting Minutes - May 2018

The minutes of the Committee Meeting held on Thursday 10th May can now be found in the Members Only section (password required) and then searching Reports.



Stockport Community Rail Festival


A selection of images of the successful and well attended Festival held on Saturday 5th May at Stockport Station.














The Mayor of Stockport, Linda Holt and her consort Kenneth Holt, are pictured along with MLS archivist Dave Nixon at the Manchester Locomotive Society headquarters during the Community Rail Festival.






Class 319s expand their range - report by Charlie Hulme


Photo: Charlie Hulme

The Class 319 EMUs being drafted in to Northern from the
London area have been working various services including
the Manchester Victoria - Liverpool via Eccles stopping trains,
the Liverpool to Manchester Airport service and the Manchester
Piccadilly to Manchester Airport shuttles for some time,
but in spring 2018 they have begun to appear at Stockport,
one each weekday being allocated to a Manchester Piccadilly -
Alderley Edge/Crewe diagram in place of a 323.

In a surprise one-off change on Saturday 10 March, the
319-worked service from Victoria was diverted to run from Hazel
Grove, due to engineering work, bringing the 319s to
Hazel Grove for the first time.

The Alderley Edge diagram is as follows:

5H43 0643 Stockport CMD to Alderley Edge ECS
2H43 0730 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K49 0804 Manchester Piccadilly to Crewe
5H47 0916 Crewe to Alderley Edge ECS
2H47 0949 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K37 1038 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
2H41 1150 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K42 1238 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
2H43 1350 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K46 1438 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
2H47 1550 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K30 1637 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
2H41 1750 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly
2K36 1838 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
5K38 1920 Alderley Edge to Manchester Piccadilly ECS
2K38 2004 Manchester Piccadilly to Crewe
5H29 2108 Crewe to Crewe ECS (via Crewe C.E.T. Sidings)
2H44 2145 Crewe to Manchester Piccadilly
2K41 2304 Manchester Piccadilly to Alderley Edge
5H28 2345 Alderley Edge to Stockport CMD ECS

The four-car Class 319s are capable of operation on third-rail
as well as 25kV overhead electrification, as they were originally
designed for use on the Thameslink service connecting lines
north and south of London. Structurally they have much in common
with the Class 150 DMUs which they now appear alongside on Northern.
They are powered by four 750V DC motors, driving all axles of
one intermediate coach - in which the charactertic whine
of the motors can be heard. The doors in the cab ends
were required for emergency use in the single-track tunnels
of the Thameslink line.





Steam Returns to Hindlow.

On Saturday March 17th the Railway Touring Company ran the 'High Peak Explorer' from Carnforth to Buxton and Hindlow.  These photographs were taken by John Tate at Dukes Drive Viaduct in Buxton.


Photo:John Tate


The outward journey, headed by Black 5 No 45157.




Photo:John Tate

Jubilee No 45690 'Leander' assists at the rear.




Photo:Charlie Hulme.

The weather changed significantly for the return journey.  The special is seen passing through Davenport watched by some hardy locals!





Signalbox Closure Date and Other News. 
From Andrew Macfarlane

Confirmation of the closure and demolition of Ashton Moss North Junction signal box during a two-week blockade from 14 to 29 April. The plan is to re-align the junction over the site of the box.  The box is a Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway structure of 1911 containing its original 56-lever frame.

 https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/railway-upgrade-means-changes-to-services-through-ashton-under-lyne/

 The line needs to cater for 6 trains per hour in each direction (2 Northern and 4 TransPennine Express) plus freights from the 20th May timetable change. The 4 TPE trains per hour are:

Liverpool- Newcastle via Victoria

Liverpool-Scarborough diverted to run via Victoria    

Manchester Airport-Middlesbrough diverted to run via Oxford Road, Ordsall Chord and Victoria

Manchester Airport-Newcastle diverted to run via Oxford Road, Ordsall Chord and Victoria

 

DfT press release on Crewe Hub (good news in my view):

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...ewe-hub-vision

Govt response to last year's consultation on the subject:

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ments-response


Andrew.

 



  
On Sunday February 4th, due to engineering works, train 1S46 09.17 Manchester Piccadilly - Edinburgh was routed via Stockport, Crewe (reverse) and Warrington Bank Quay.  This is a rare route for a Class 350 EMU.  Kevin Parkinson photographed 350 402 passing Stockport.








Train Log 60s

Have you noticed the newly added link on the Home Page to this website?

This is a highly impressive trainspotting log by our member Kevin Daily.  It is mainly concerned with the Stockport and Manchester area (and a few from elsewhere) and commences in Summer 1959 running in sections through to the summer of 1968.
The wealth of information on each page is phenomenal.  Train service destinations, locomotives, multiple units, motive power allocations, even carriage numbers are included.  More entries will be added regularly.



Train Log 60s




New Feature Article

A very interesting new article by Pete Bridge entitled Trial by Camera - The Manchester Area in the 1970s has been published in the Feature Articles section.
 

2017 AGM minutes

The minutes of the 2017 Annual General Meeting, together with the minutes of Committee Meeting no 730 (November) can be found by clicking on Reports in the password protected section of the Members Page.


Older items can be found on the Archive page.


Members' contributions welcome at:  website@manlocosoc.co.uk